Power Coefficient

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Power Coefficient

Postby Sina.Ameli » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:59 pm

Dear Dr. Jonkman,
In wind turbines, is it possible that CP (Power Coefficient) becomes negative sometimes in region 3?
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Re: Power Coefficient

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:26 am

Dear Sina,

I would normally except the time-averaged value of Cp to remain positive in Region 3, but I could imagine situations where the instantaneous value of Cp goes negative temporarily.

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Re: Power Coefficient

Postby Sina.Ameli » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:55 am

Dear Dr. Jonkman,

Thanks for your prompt response. In what situations CP is negative? For instance, is it possible when we have a sudden drop in the wind speed creating a negative torque and finally a negative power coefficient, i.e the wind turbine behaves like a motor (propeller)?

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Re: Power Coefficient

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:53 am

Dear Sina,

I'm not sure, but the instantaneous values of Cp certain fluctuate when simulating in turbulence. Again, I wouldn't look at that much, focusing instead on the time-averaged Cp values.

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