Active stall control VS pitch control

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Active stall control VS pitch control

Postby Yanda.Jiang » Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:12 am

Hi guys,

I am reading papers and books about control method of WTG and confused by comparison between active stall control and pitch control.

1) What is power-wind speed curve with active stall and passive stall control? I attach two graphs I found from internet below. The first one is from "control of wind turbines - Mragheb". The second one is from book "power conversion and control of wind energy systems". The stall part of these two graphs are very different, so I am curious which one is right?
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2) Considering we have already had "pitch-control" method which works very well, why do we still need "active-stall control"? Since the biggest difference between them is just the direction to pitch blade when wind speed is above rated value and "active-stall control" is not much simpler than "pitch control". Is there any obvious advantage of introducing "turbulence" than just "reducing angle of attack"?

Many thx for your time in advance.


Sincerely,
Yanda

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Re: Active stall control VS pitch control

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:40 pm

Dear Yanda,

Regarding (1), my guess is the difference in the two "active stall regulation" curves are just two different examples i.e. Figure 2-13b has better power regulation than Figure 4. Active stall regulation is not very common in practice.

Regarding (2), while the power regulation can be quite similar between active pitch-to-feather and active pitch-to-stall control, the resulting thrust can be quite different. I looked at this once when looking at control of floating wind turbines--see my ASME Wind Energy Symposium paper from 2008 (sectrion III.B) for more information: https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy08osti/42589.pdf.

I hope that helps.

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Re: Active stall control VS pitch control

Postby Yanda.Jiang » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:30 pm

Jason.Jonkman wrote:Dear Yanda,

Regarding (1), my guess is the difference in the two "active stall regulation" curves are just two different examples i.e. Figure 2-13b has better power regulation than Figure 4. Active stall regulation is not very common in practice.

Regarding (2), while the power regulation can be quite similar between active pitch-to-feather and active pitch-to-stall control, the resulting thrust can be quite different. I looked at this once when looking at control of floating wind turbines--see my ASME Wind Energy Symposium paper from 2008 (sectrion III.B) for more information: https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy08osti/42589.pdf.

I hope that helps.

Best regards,



Thx, Jason. The paper is interesting. I don't understand completely yet, but its idea inspired me a lot.


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