MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Tue May 09, 2017 6:43 am

Dear Ingrid,

Here are my answers to your questions:

1) Overall your approach sounds reasonable. Of course, normally you'd run many more than 16 simulations (e.g. by running multiple seeds and conditions) and process more than just the mudline fore-aft bending moment. And for offshore loads analysis, it is often important to consider a multi-dimensional probability distribution of wind and waves. From your description, it sounds like you are only considering a one-dimensional Weibull distribution of wind (and presumably, the wave conditions are conditioned on wind speed).

2) Yes, the lifetime fatigue calculation is weighted by the probability distribution. Of course--depending on the material exponent (m)--large amplitude cycles with low probability of occurrence may be just or more important than low amplitude cycles of high probability.

3) Short-term DELs are computed independent from the probability distribution, considering only the rainflow cycle counts from an individual time series.

The equations MLife uses for the various calculations are documented in the MLife Theory Manual: https://nwtc.nrel.gov/system/files/MLife_Theory.pdf.

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Ingrid.Loken » Tue May 09, 2017 7:45 am

Dear Mr. Jonkman

Thank you so much for your quick and heplful reply.

I know I would have to run many more load cases to get an exact result for fatigue life, but as I am comparing foundation models, and running a great number of analyses would be very time consuming, I decided to only model 16 load cases (wind speed 2 m/s to 32 m/s, based on a scatter diagram on wind and wave data from a certain site), with only one-dimensional Weibull distribution. Do you think my simple approach is sufficient enough to get useful results for my purpose?

I have two other questions:

1) As I have understood reading this forum and some other publication, there is no recommended value to use for LUlt, even though it highly affects the MLife results. So after doing some research I chose to use a value for LUlt that would make the time until failure of one of my models approximately equal to the design lifetime, so that I could compare my other foundation models with respect to a "reasonable" lifetime of around 20-30 years. Do you have any other recommendations on what value to choose for LUlt?

2) As the value of m also has great influence on the results, I am wondering what value you would choose for the structure at the mudline? (I chose m=5, as this is recommended by DNV for structural details in the high cycle fatigue range in seawater with cathodic prodection)

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Ingrid

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Tue May 09, 2017 10:43 am

Dear Ingrid,

With only one seed per wind-speed bin, I would be a bit concerned that the calculated fatigue loads would depend on the seed. I would suggest running more seeds to assess the sensitivity--ideally the fatigue solution would be seed independent.

There is some discussion on how to choose LUlt in our FAQ: https://nwtc.nrel.gov/FAQ#TypeLMF. For a simple cylindrical steel cross section, you should be able to calculate LUlt analytically see e.g. my post dated Feb 23, 2016 in the following forum topic: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1497&p=6693.

For steel, often the fatigue analysis is performed over a range of material exponents e.g. m = 3, m = 4, and m = 5.

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Faryal.Khalid » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:23 am

Dear Jason,

I am analysing blade root fatigue using MLife v1.01.00a-gjh for Test02.mlif. I have the following two queries:
1. mlif.m runs as expected for the test case, but I get an error if I want to produce a load rose for the test case using:

Code: Select all

 -----  Load Roses  -------------------------------------------------------------
1             nLoadRoses          The number of load roses to generate.
Rose Name     Units    Channel1       Channel2     nSectors
“RootFxyc1”   “kN”     $RootFxc1$     $RootFyc1$   12

The error reads:

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 Warning: repmat(A,M) or repmat(A,M,N) where M or N is an empty array will return an error in a future
release. Replace empty array inputs with 1 instead.
> In read_one_file (line 93)
  In mlife (line 348)
      Rows=159733, Cols=135
Error using  .*
Matrix dimensions must agree.

Error in read_one_file (line 119)
      timeSeriesData(:,1:NumIC) = repmat(scales,nLines,1).*timeSeriesData(:,1:NumIC) +
      repmat(offsets,nLines,1);

Error in mlife (line 348)
      [ FileInfo.Time, nLines, FileInfo.Title{iFile} ] = read_one_file( ...

2. Is it possible to visualise the rainflow cycle distribution using histogram/matrices similar to WAFO?

Thank you so much for your help.

Best regards,

Faryal Khalid
Faryal Khalid
Early career researcher Offshore Renewable Energy
University of Exeter, Penryn Campus ¦ TR10 9FE

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Greg.Hayman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:56 am

For item (1), you need to modify Test02.mlif to use the StrNames functionality. It should now run without any errors.

true StrNames Use channel names following a "$" instead of numbers when specifying channels in this input file.

2) You can access the binned rainflow counts via the data structures outlines in Appendix C of the MLife User's Guide

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Simon.Wiedemann » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:21 am

Dear All,

im using Mlife to calculate fatigue loads.
I would like to specify the distribution of the runs by myself so I need to create a file for the variable "DistribFile" in Mlife.

Can someone give an example how this file should look like?

Best regards,
Simon

UPDATE:
In the source dir that comes with the latest Mlife_archie there is a function write_joint_pdf.m with this function it is very easy to create needed binary distribution files.
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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:01 am

Dear Simon,

Presumably you mean MLife input parameter "DistribName" rather than "DistribFile".

Test28.mlif in the MLife CerTest provides an example with a user-defined distribution, with the user-supplied distribution table given in CertTest/Data/WindDistrib.dat. But this file is in binary format, and so, is not human readable. However, the format is described in the document, "User_Probability_Distributions.pdf" given in the Documentation directory.

I hope that helps.

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Simon.Wiedemann » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:16 am

Dear Jason,

thank you for clarifying!

In order to validate mlife against Bladed postprocessing I try to do a fatigue calculation with only one time series and one sensor. But Mlife is giving me following error:

I also included the mlife settings file.
Is there any error or misunderstanding?

Best regards,

Simon

UPDATE:
I compared the basis of my settings file (Test28.mlif) with others (e.g. Test01.mlif) and found some differences. Apart from some names that are defined different I can find the option for a user specified distribution in Test01.mlif.
Then I tried to run Test28.mlif with Mlife_win32.exe and got the same error as shown below.
Test01.mlif works.
Can you provide a working example of Mlife with user defined distribution?

UPDATE_2:
It seems, that the compiled Mlife in Version MLife_v1.01.00a_0 is not updated. Can you provide a compiled version of the latest version? I don't have a needed Toolbox for Wind Speed binning (function wblcdf) in Matlab so I need to run Mlife as a compiled version.
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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Greg.Hayman » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:41 am

Hello Simon,

Unfortunately, we do not have the resources to supported pre-compiled versions of MLife at this time. The good news is that you can still use MLife! You simply need to create your own version of the Weibull cumulative distribution function, wblcdf() function.

https://www.mathworks.com/help/stats/wblcdf.html

I cannot vouch for the following, but here is an example:

http://www.dynare.org/dynare-matlab-m2html/matlab/missing/stats/wblcdf.html

Best Regards,

Greg

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Simon.Wiedemann » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:16 am

Dear Greg,

thank you very much. I will use the binary File or replace the mentioned Matlab function.

Best regards,

Simon
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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Simon.Wiedemann » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:04 am

Dear all,

has anyone made a comparison between Mlife and Bladed post processing for the rainflow counting algorithm (e.g. comparing calculated DELs without Weibull weighting)?

I validated, that both programs are counting the same amount of cycles.
No Goodman correction was used in Bladed and Mlife.
The best results I get for UCMult = 0.5.
Altough for some time series / sensors I got a ~0% difference and for some up to 12% difference in DEL.

I tried to find out which algorithm was used in Mlife and Bladed. In both references to papers were made :

Mlife:
Downing, S.D.; Socie, D.F. (1982). “Simple Rainflow Counting Algorithms.” International Journal of Fatigue; Vol. 4, [N.1], pp. 31 40.http://masters.donntu.org/2015/fimm/zin ... icle11.pdf

Bladed:
Recommended Practices for Wind Turbine Testing and Evaluation, 3. Fatigue Loads, IEA, 2nd edition 1990
https://community.ieawind.org/viewdocum ... 488ff4bd04

Can someone explain the difference between both approaches or has experience with both post processing programs when it comes to DEL?

Best regards,

Simon

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Re: MLife Fatigue DEL Calculation

Postby Jianwen.Xu » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:05 pm

Dear Dr.Jonkman:
I am analyzing wind turbine yaw bearing fatigue using MLife v1.01.00a-gjh for Test09.mlif with MATLAB. I have the following question which confused me a lot:

1) I used the FAST output file "Test18_onshore04_10_41x41.out" and "Test18_onshore04_10_41x41a.out" as Input files of MLife instead of the original two("DLC2.3_1.out" and "DLC2.3_1a.out" ). It showed three problems which are in the picture below.

I think it isn't the problem with the Input files as I also tried the original two with the same fatigue analysis, it showed the same problems. And I am thinking whether it is the problem with the Distribution section or the Fatigue section?

Here is the attachment of the MLife running file "Test09_10mps_1.txt".
Could you please have a look at it?

Kind regards

Jianwen
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