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OC5 Tower Properties Question

Postby Diana.Jelenova » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:44 am

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know, the tower properties for the OC5 DeepCwind Semisubmersible Floating System such as top outer and inner diameter, bottom outer and inner diameter, Young's and shear modulus and effective density? I looked into Definition of the OC5 DeepCwind Semisubmersible Floating System pdf but these properties are not mentioned. I also looked into FAST tower.dat and ElastoDyn files but couldn't find this information. The axial stiffness of OC5 is much higher than in OC4 so I am assuming some parameters changed but I am unable to back-track which are the ones that changed and thus I am unable to make the OC5 model.

Any help will be appreciated.

With Kind Regards

Diana

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Re: OC5 Tower Properties Question

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:58 am

Dear Diana,

Are you using unpublished report, "Definition of the OC5 DeepCwind Semisubmersible Floating System" by Robertson et al? Section 3.3 of that report identifies many of the properties you are asking about, including outer diameter, inner diameter, and Aluminum alloy of both tower sections.

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Re: OC5 Tower Properties Question

Postby Francesco.Papi » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:20 am

Dear Jason,

I am trying to derive tower properties for the OC5 Tower based on the report "Definition of the OC5 DeepCwind Semisubmersible Floating System" by Robertson et al. to use in a OC5 OpenFAST model that I am setting-up. The end goal is to compare OpenFAST and other simulation tools to the OC5 experimental data. To calculate mode shapes and natural frequencies I am modelling the tower in BModes_JJ, which I found in another forum thread (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2544).
I imported linearized stiffness matrix, added mass and hydrodynamic stiffness. The frequencies of the first six modes match the ones in the report for the floating platform so I am assuming the platform is modelled correctly.
The issue is that the frequency of the first tower f-a and s-s modes are extremely low, and are actually pretty close to the heave frequency of the floating platform. I have noticed that adjusting the f-a and s-s stiffness tuners in BModes (flp_stff_mult & edge_stff_mult) of a factor 40 gives me natural frequencies of 0.31 and 0.32 Hz which match the ones measured in the report, but this obviously makes very little sense to me.

Any insight on what I might be doing wrong? I have triple checked my properties file and I believe tower properties are correct, but can provide them if useful. Maybe upscaling from model scale has something to do with this? I have defined the model at full scale as in the report. Would using the OC4 elastodyn input file with appropriately scaled mass be a solution? I read that the OC5 model was designed to match the stiffness and natural frequencies of the OC4 NREL 5MW tower.

Thank you for any help,
Best Regards,

Francesco Papi

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Re: OC5 Tower Properties Question

Postby Jason.Jonkman » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:00 pm

Dear Francesco,

I would not expect the tower frequencies predicted by BModes_JJ to be so far off for the OC5-DeepCwind tower. I would first double check your inputs and make sure you've identified the correct mode shapes from the BModes output file.

I don't think I can comment more without seeing your BModes_JJ input and output files.

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